December 15th, 2017
15 Dec 2017 · page 756 of 1306
This one is for those of you speculating about what Wolfe's flaw could possibly be..
Cast: Benjamin Thackerey, Heinrich Wolfe, Sidney Malik, Verity Cunningham
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Everything about this page is magical. I love Sid's expression in panel 4. And "police automaton". xD
Verity's response probably sent a wave of squeeing all through the readership as well. Salaciously suggestive!
I wonder if the way of her reply and reactions of others are affected by Lust nearby.
Probably!
I wonder if part of her response is enjoying Ben's response.
I love Sid's use of air quotes in panel two. That's a nice bit of subtlety there.
Sid ships them! :D
......Oh Gods I just realized that trying to get them back together so Verity will stop being lonely is totally something Sid would do, especially now that he's realized part of Verity's problem with him is that she's jealous.
Looks like Lust. A bit early since Greed is supposed to be next...
It's meddling purposedly...
I can't help but wonder if the plan is to kidnap Wolfe in order to bring him into the anchor to use against Mal.
Hanky panky time.
OHHHH MY GOSH.
nooooo. not innocent wolfe! then again.... makes perfect sense.
Especially given the episode with "dance with Florrie, forgot about seeking Voss".
Exactly how innocent do you think he is here? Cause... (remember this page?
[http://www.widdershinscomic...](http://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/april-4th-2012/ "http://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/april-4th-2012/") )
This page makes me want a scene wherein either Ben or Mal find out what got his attention and go "oh God Wolfe not again."
did you miss where i said it made perfect sense?
; )
We've been getting hints that Wolfe might be susceptible to Lust for awhile now. Mal's comment about Wolfe loving redheads, his interactions with Florrie/Nicole, some of the between chapter q/a sessions, the page Ocean Burning linked. Gonna bet five internet dollars that Lux's form here has red hair.
He's certainly not depicated as a lust maniac or anything. But given his nature, he seems particularly vulnerable to a pretty lady asking for help.
Wolfe is a "lust maniac" He's charming and polite and knows what he wants. He's got a lust for life and women. Given the morality of the time period and one of starting scences has him trying to pick up a woman in a bar, he probably has slept with quite a few women, married or not.
"he probably has slept with quite a few women, married or not."
It's just most young men of all time - not the lust maniacs only :)
Who are all the women they sleep with then, though?
This is entirely too much for one page. :) In absolutely good sense, of course.
Don't do it Wolfe! She's not a natural redhead!
I resemble that! ;)
I laughed so hard at this. XD
Nicola and Verity?! Oh, surely not. On the other hand, that sounds like it would fit right in with the history of Harry and Verity's rivalry.
I also love how Sid is unable to restrain his squee. Despite all the Sins being loose, he really is having quite a great night.
It sounds like there might have been the potential for extreme awkwardness involved somewhere? Like, I wonder if this was taking place before or after Harry quit the police??
I always thought that Wolfe's flaw was fairly clear. He's a helper. That is to say that he will go above and beyond to help people regardless of himself. A good trait, in most cases, but one that can be exploited by an unscrupulous individual.
Particularly an unscrupulous red-headed 'damsel in distress'. He needs Mal to read the aura!
I thought the words in the first panel were said by Wolfe until I saw "can't" and realised it was Ben's.
♪Lust be a lady, tonight♪
Well played!
"Lust let a gentleman see //
How nice a dame you can be..."
I know the way you've treated other guys you've been with
Lust be a lady with me.~
I had some doubt but... small world, eh ?
It's kind of an "everybody knows everybody" kind of world.
Then again, Vee and Harry were partners in the past, and the map suggests that Widdershins is very small town, so it isn't unlikely that Verity and Nicola had had a chance to get acquainted.
And I suppose bounty hunters have to know some of the police, as they bring criminals there.
sigh
Hiiiiiiiii, Lust...
Nicky?
Oh. Um. wipes fog from glasses
Um.
<3
I read that last line as '...a treacherous lady', which I suppose works just as well. :)
Oh my. I would not have guessed that! Does Harry know? What does/would she think? Unless she was squicked out at a fundamental level by the idea, she might well be amused by their feet of clay. Indeed, how was it that Nicola never managed to reclaim Gren? Could it have been...?
Harry: (reads from notebook) "You know how you complain that hunters sometimes stick two fingers up at the law?"... "Are you... giving me a Vee-sign, Vee?"... lots of giggling... couldn't think of a description or onomatopoeism for the noise that followed... "lamprey fish"... then Gren chased a rat, I think, and knocked over a dustbin... "What was that?"... "I think it was me, darling." smirk
Nicola: And this is really just for the dog...? sags angrily, head in hands Fine, keep it. (grumble) Spying on your own sister - I wouldn't have believed you'd stoop so low...
Harry: tears page from notebook, drops it on Nicola's desk For my dear and valued assistant stoops low over Gren there's nothing I wouldn't stoop to! stroke and bellyrub
Gren: ♥ ♥ ♥tailwag♥ ♥ ♥canine adoration♥ ♥
>:=)>
Maybe, Nicky and Vee broke out because of Harry leaving the police and becoming Vee' partner... Though it seems Verity has no bitter feelings about their affair remained in the past (as she has about her with Harry partnership).
I see. Wolf's flaw is that he lags behind. 😉
My reaction to most of the comic: (makes a face like Sid's in the forth panel) Oh wow, this is interesting information! I don't know whose reaction is better, Ben's "wait...what!?", Verity's smugness, or Sid's glee. I wonder if Nicola knows about Ben's relationship to Verity and what she thinks of that. I am also curious to know Harry's feelings about the whole thing. I also think it's interesting that Verity refers to Harry by her full first name after their partnership dissolved but seems fine referring to Nicola by a nickname.
My reaction to the last panel: [https://www.youtube.com/wat...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaPh78WyV30 "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaPh78WyV30")
I knew there had to be a reason the background colors (and Fairbairn's silhouette color) of the last comic with them were red, not green! Also, her words go from red with special font to black and normal font, which is in interesting little touch.
You can also see a little bit of the sketch outline form leg (from this comic [http://www.widdershinscomic...](http://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/january-29th-2016/ "http://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/january-29th-2016/") ) through the back of "her" dress.
Good catch!
>I also think it's interesting that Verity refers to Harry by her full
first name after their partnership dissolved but seems fine referring to
Nicola by a nickname.
I went back to check, and Vee does call her Harry when it looks like she's been shot by Lei: [http://www.widdershinscomic...](http://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/april-10th-2013/ "http://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/april-10th-2013/") That might be the only time, though.
Everybody sing!
"I know you are a man of honor //
I’m so sorry to bother you at home //
But I don’t know where to go, and I came here all alone…"
"My husband's doing me wrong//
Beating me, cheating me, mistreating me//
Suddenly, he's up and gone, I don't have the means to go on..."
Curse you. I just got those songs out of my mind, *godsdamnit*.
:P
I went to the show last Weds. I anticipate using ear vermicide for months...
Really, though, it's not so bad. You can get away from them: the world is wide enough for Hamilton and thee.
Heeeere's Lust!
WOLFE, WOLFE NO! D8
ooooOoooOh shoot O'malley's gonna be hecka upset.
OMG LUST -- YOU'RE OUT OF LINE!!!
Well, if the Verity/Wolfe ship sinks the Verity/Nicola ship has some interesting potential. Although I would consider that a bit of a long shot because they tried it a few years ago and it did not work out. Even with an amicable break up that leaves fond memories in its wake that does not give good odds for both of them being willing to try again or for it working out better this time than it did last time.
What interests me is that even though it's been several years it apparently lasted long enough/ was important enough that Ben remembers it even though it would appear he never met Nicola before Widdershins. Makes me really want to know the backstory, even if nothing romantic happens in the present time.
They could have met, just never in a context with Veritiy as well. So he knows Captain Barber, and he knows that Verity is seeing a "Nicky", but never draws the connection between them.
That's what I find interesting. Her relationship with "Nicky" made enough of an impact that he remembers the name years later, but I feel like that would mean he would recognize her when they met again in Widdershins if they had met before. So now I want backstory.
...Wait, I thought they had to banish Greed next
They do. Lust is being very opportunistic here. I suppose that's its nature. : P
They do have to banish Greed next, but that does not prevent Luxuria from coming after them. It looks like Luxuria has decided it is time to start whittling down the party. Given how effective they have been so far it is kind of surprising that it took Luxuria this long to come to that decision.
I feel a disturbance in the Force, as if a thousand shippers cried out and were suddenly shrieking all together...
In joy or despair?
Yes.
In excitement, as they re-evaluated everything that they had believed before, and made lots of notes and graphs and things.
This chapter has made me revise half of my headcanons due to all the backstory we've been getting. Mostly a good thing, but still.
You know, despite the general regard for how perfect Wolfe is he hasn't been all that useful except at the very beginning of this story.
His music stopped Wrath, pretty much unassisted. For that part he was vital.
Envy made a puppet of him. Granted he didn't fall under its influence but he wasn't much more than a distraction.
When they went against Gluttony he was knocked out by Vee's sleep darts. Again he didn't fall under the sin's influence, but he wasn't in a position to do anything useful either.
Pride trapped him in one of its mirror prisons.
He fell asleep in Sloth's fog.
And now it looks like Lust is going to remove him from play until after all of the sins are defeated without letting him even see Greed.
> Envy made a puppet of him. Granted he didn't fall under its influence but he wasn't much more than a distraction.
Well, I always thought that Envy, actually, was defeated by Wolfe (though indirectly). :)
It was Wolfe's example and compassion for Voss that allowed Voss to break away from Envy. So Wolfe was extremely useful, even if indirectly (as Heylir said).
It will be interesting to see where this goes. Not sure I can take the suspense.
tbh the same can be said for all other characters
ben was useless to wrath and envy but was instrumental in defeating pride and sloth
sid fell prey to envy and sloth but assisted with pride and wrath
V was useless in wrath and pride but assisted with sloth and envy
it's just that we already saw all the others as flawed while wolfe was never shown with much flaws, I'm glad that he's shown to be fully capable of falling prey to his emotions
also I've theorised that all characters have a sin they're particularly weak to and a sin they're strong against and so far that hypothesis seems correct
harry is weak against wrath (nearly shot the bastard instead of finishing the incantation) but strong against envy (didn't even pay attention to the slimy bugger)
sid is good against pride (didn't succumb, played a smaller role then I suspected) but weak against greed (not because he's greedy, none of them really are but because of his spirit)
V is weak against pride (no, duh!) but will be strong against greed (don't know how or why yet but I suspect it because of her pairing with sid)
ben was good against sloth (even in his weakened sleepy state he was the one to hold on) but weak against envy (didn't even participate in that battle)
wolfe is strong against wrath but weak against lust
mal was weak against sloth (in the apathy kind) but will be strong against lust
You sure have a different take on Sid. I would say Sid is the strongest member of the group against Greed, and his magical stealing problem only serves to highlight that. Thinking about how, even when he's completely broke (should be vulnerable to temptation), Sid always gives people back their stuff...
I would say Sid's strongest point is against Greed, and weakest against Sloth.
I wasn't saying that sid's a greedy person, in fact I fully expect the greed chapter to be a full blown confrontation between his forced greed (via the magpie) and V's natural greed
like gluttony nobody involved has shown any real greed, I suspect V to have the most greed into her simply because she's a treasure hunter who's not really just into it for the justice angle (her cuffing fairbarn seems to confirm this)
what I suspect will happen is that greed will provide each of them with what they want but if they try to grab it they lose
sid will automaticly lose because the magpie will grab it and V will ultimatly save the day by denying what she wants most in order to give closure to her partnership with harry and her rivalry with sid
Cccaaaallled it! I wasn't expecting this to come up until the gang was ready to move on to Lust, but I guess Luxuria is... proactive.
Well, well, well! The speculation in the comments on this page ( [http://www.widdershinscomic...](http://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/august-1st-2017/ "http://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/august-1st-2017/") ) has certainly been confirmed...
I definitely didn't think then about the option "former girlfriends", I must admit.
Indeed. And Kate's response is explained.
Now, of course, I'm trying to figure out how Vee and Nicola came to break up...
Remember, kids, avoid ladies with demonic voices!
Oh, no! Red text with a funny font!
I love the reactions from Ben (who understandably never made the connection between his cousin's former girlfriend Nicky and the Captain Barber he's been working with for a year or so - in fact, it's possible he didn't even know her first name till now) and Sid (who just met Nicola for the first time and was mildly terrified, so is extra thrilled by this revelation).
It occurs to me that when Grandpa Henry brought up Victor Cunningham and said "Y'used to work wi' a granddaughter of his, didn't y'?" ( [http://www.widdershinscomic...](http://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/august-28th-2015-4-days-left-on-kickstarter/ "http://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/august-28th-2015-4-days-left-on-kickstarter/") ) we saw Harry's and Sid's reactions, but Nicola was out of the frame...
> in fact, it's possible he didn't even know her first name till now
Ms Fairbairn called her "Nicola" in Ben's presence, there: [http://www.widdershinscomic...](http://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/august-29th-2012/ "http://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/august-29th-2012/")
Good noticed! Now I wonder if Henry Barber didn't know about that (because Nicola is much more reserved about her personal affairs than Verity is) or he just didn't mention it, for obvious reasons.
>Ms Fairbairn called her "Nicola" in Ben's presence
Ah, good point - I'd forgotten about that page.
Yes, but that doesn't mean Ben knew that Nicola's nickname was Nicky. We wouldn't know that Verity answered to Vee if Harry hadn't told us...
I definitely get the feeling he didn't. His reaction seems to be more along the lines of "wait, you just spoke like you're familiar with Captain Barber....wait, you called her Nicky and I remember you dating someone by that nickname a while back but there's no way that's how you know her."
And now I want a moment wherein Nicola discovers Verity and Ben are cousins and is like "wait.....no way, is that Benji?!" and Ben just can't even.
The colors over the town have whittled down to green and pink(ish). And I see Luxuria has his shape-shifting powers back. Wolfe is in trouble now!
Oh, wow, I never noticed that the swirls of color in the sky correspond to which Deadlies are still loose! Nice catch.
I can hear Avarice shouting, "Oi Lux! Wait yer turn! There's a queue here!"
Wait... Verity... Nicola.... They... but... when... I...
WHUH!?
good luck on those who called it.
That makes the cast what... 50% non-straight? More? Hooray for representation.
What makes me happy as someone who is Bi is that for the most part that representation doesn't make their sexuality, and society's view of it, the main focus of the character's story arch. I mean, trust me when I say I know why that needs to be addressed in most story lines (and I like how that was treated in the case of Nicola) but it's lovely to see a narrative that doesn't make that compete with everything else/be the main challenge their character faces.
Basically, I love that the non-straight characters in this narrative have their sexuality as just part of their characters in the same way someone who was straight would have their sexuality presented.
Yes! I also like that asexuality is represented along with the better-known orientations - I'm ace myself, and there really aren't enough explicitly asexual characters out there. I'm really looking forward to the reveal when Mal comes up against Luxuria!
Looking into sixth panel closer. Hey, Wolfe's eyes are green? I never have noticed that before.
Yes, they are. And this one comment was enough to cause me to go re-read all of "Green-Eyed Monster" (again)...
I am slightly too tired to come up with lyrics for "Hey, Big Spender" to fit this situation.
What is Lux up to?.... As Greed is our next deadly sin to desummon.
And how is the Purple Hippo of Happiness gonna save the day?
"And how is the Purple Hippo of Happiness gonna save the day?"
Happily.
Huh... I'm, uh, super surprised that people didn't get that subtext about them before. I figured it was why Vee was giving Sid so much shit when they met (and assuming he'd replaced her in both capacities when there was nothing to indicate they were a couple).
Also, Sid's expression in the 4th panel is priceless. :D
I think you're thinking of Harry, not Nicola. There's never been anything to indicate a direct connection between Nicola and Vee (except that Vee used to work with Nicola's sister) until now.
Harry is downright straight, it's the word of VOG :)
By the way, is it Ni-co-la or Nic-o-la? I've been pronouncing it the first way in my head, but it seems like one of those names that might be pronounced differently in the UK.
Well, I did it the third way, accent on the last syllable. :)
I've been pronouncing it the second way, but I'm American so that might not help you.
tbh I'm with wolfe here and not just because I have a thing for redheads as well + an intricate desire to help who-ever asks me for it
okay yeah, it's exactly that but those are good reasons goddamnit!
Part of me wants to comment on Wolfe's predicament, but I'm stuck on Vee and "Nicky" right now. I'm sure they were a cute couple, but their clashing personalities must have made it an... energetic match.
Oh, Sid. Sid, Sid, Sid. Such a sweet, innocent, easily excitable puppy. I hope he realizes that calling Nicola "Nicky" without being told he's allowed to will likely result in the full brunt of the Barber potential for rage against him... :P
Don't you think that that font is just a LITTLE suspicious?
I gotta say, Wolf and O'Malley really remind me of Vash the Stampede and Nick Wolfwood from Trigun
I'm afraid Lust will "bite off" the team members one by one - first generous and altruistic Wolfe, then Sid - the most experienced anti-Greed fighter of them all (via Lei - who is near Macavity now, as far as we know).
It will leave them with Vee (not forgetting abour bounty, as we saw with Fairbairn) and Ben (who just has lost his (not insured) house and office this morning - as main withstanders against Greed...
It will be tough.
> then Sid - the most experienced anti-Greed fighter of them all (via Lei - who is near Macavity now, as far as we know).
In that case, I would bet on Sid resisting successfully... or being very lucky, at least. :) He must win over Greed, after his failure with Sloth and his feelings about that.
His flaw is that he always thinks the best of everyone. (Also known as "being a sucker.") We've known that for a while. :P
Lust literally looks sketchy
"Come a little bit closer,
you're my kind of man,
So big and so strong..."
Does the wrench in Vee's hair serve a non-hair-holding purpose? Some of those fiddly machines could very well require a wrench about that size...
Also...damn, Vee, just plowing through the Barber family, aren't you?
A bit late, but aye, the wrench was used to unscrew the arm on Lei’s robotman in one of the previous volumes. I can’t remember which one off the top of my head though.